Ship Scheduling Meeting
Wednesday, July 17, 2002
Boardroom (room # 1235)
National Science Foundation
Arlington, VA
Draft Minutes
Meeting attempted to follow the agenda attached as appendix I
A list of the attendees is attached as appendix II
0830 Call meeting to order
Introductions around the room list of attendees attached as appendix II
Tim Pfeiffer announced that ONR will now fund 100% of shiptime from the facilities budget from now on, similar to NSF.
1. LOI discussions - double bookings, declines, omissions
Allison is double booked with Pelican and should be removed from SAVANNAH schedule.
Can they cover Kevin Brown equipment recovery? PI and STRI have been asked to contact one another and determine if this cruise can be scheduled on URACCA.
Glynn is funded
Bates is a decline
Detrick is pending
Fratantoni funding is 6 days NSF, 4 days ONR ,NSF days should be linked to STR # 2001071810401109. The Sept. 18th start date is ONR cruise, link is right
Charette(Mulligan is PI) OCE-0233622 Water Cycle Panel is Oct 7-9. too late for 2003 ship time.
Makris work is a conflict in time with Garvine. Need to coordinate with Oceanus and Endeavor.
NOAA work is pending
Boyd/NRL pending todayıs NRL decisions may need to be added.
Double Bookings
NAVO 40 days pending, some double booked
Inzce/NUWC needs two ships, three have it scheduled
Cape Hatteras will be in refit through May, but may be operable in April. 106 days scheduled, 30 days funded plus 11 State days
OCE 0220890 Osborne funded 14 days
0233620 Charette (Also on WECOMA) panel is in Oct. may not be funded for 2003 shiptime
Corliss is declined
Double Bookings
Inzce/NUWC two ships requested, three scheduled
Start with Christensen. Then a Required shipyard. Schedule is fixed by the Navy programs that are multi ship and with fixed dates.
Balch and Orr requires a ScanFish which has been lost. Will need to find an existing scanfish.
Summer is a full schedule to be worked out with OCEANUS. Chen is the only other double booking with OCEANUS.
End of the year schedule goes south, but there are some problems. Limeburner needs to go earlier because of battery life and other cruise conflicts for his personnel. Probably needs to find another ship.
Cutter needs to go in August and Hebert is flexible.
Need to resolve the Southern work with other ship schedules
Christensen is authorized for 5 additional science days in 2003 for a total of 23.
Double Bookings
NAVO Phys. Oc is double booked
Inzce/NUWC needs two ships, scheduled on three
Chen pending, high probability of funding,
McGillicuddy is funded by NOAA
Need to consider the possibility of doing some Med work with an Intermediate, because too much work there needs to be done at the same time. This is in the early part of the year when the ships are busy elsewhere, so will need some creative scheduling.
Double Bookings
NAVO, funding not likely
Ingall, but will be declined
Devol is funded.
Might do a partial layup on SJII by moving some work to SJ
NAVO double booked and pending
Limeburner is on the schedule, but by itself so would involve a lot of transit, also being considered on ENDEAVOR and MELVILLE
Benetti, Coral Reef Eco Systems, questioned, because NOAA (Kenric) did not know of any ship time needs. Kenric will check.
9981618 is OCE number for Carpenter.
Ocean Exploration work is pending
Pilskaln is declined
Mazel/Navy is funded
Johnsen/Navy is pending (NOT SURE I HAVE THIS ONE RIGHT).
Johns/Navy is pending. Bill Hahn thought that he wanted the BROWN because of Seabeam. Need to resolve actual needs
Leaves about 119 days funded. May have to combine schedules, although there is a lot of sub work which has to be done in good weather.
NAVO pending
Landing- no request, no project, remove from schedule
Reid 0221796 recommended for funding.
Visscher is declined.
Pam Reid is funded for 14 Navy days. Reid is also funded by NSF as well on an EAR award, need to verify how many days. Original request was for 10 days in 2002 and 25 in 2003.
Grasmueck is declined.
Heil is double booked with PELICAN and has done the work in the first two years on the WALTON SMITH, but NSF would like the cruise on PELICAN unless the PI can provide scientific justification for using WALTON SMITH.
NAVO pending
Ingall is going to be declined. (double-booked on several ships)
Total days without Ingall is 221.
PELICAN should be out of the shipyard in mid April.
Bianchi will wait until after shipyard, Rabalais will go on ACADIAN during shipyard.
Schedule shows Corbett from October on with Bianchiıs OCE number. It is correct earlier.
Allison would be scheduled to go with Heil and the transit to St. Pete would be split between agencies. Allison is pending and double booked on SAVANNAH, but should stay on PELICAN.
NRL Richardson, one is funded. Other Richardson and Wang will decided later today by NRL.
Rayborn is pending
Hannifen and Dagg/ NOAA work is pending, Fred Rossmann. will check status.
Rabalais is funded through about July and after that is pending new funding (NOAA)
NAVO is pending
DiMarco is a COOP proposal that has not been submitted yet and requests some 2003 Nov/Dec) work but it will not be funded for field in 2003.
Lisa Campbell has one day of funded NOAA work for GYRE which should be added.
NAVO 22 days is pending
Light schedule at the beginning of the year, can cover PELICAN if necessary
Whopper should be Walpert and Taylor should be from NAVO.
Status of GLOBEC work and Musgrave add on. Kenric
GLOBEC panel is the third week in November and the decisions will impact HELIX schedule and WECOMA.
Musgrave is a placeholder for proposals being submitted for GLOBEC.
Towed undulating vehicle availability is an issue for GLOBEC cruises and several others in the fleet. NSF and ONR are working with operators to identify available vehicles and how to get another vehicle sooner than later.
Estes work, can go on TIGLAX (?) as in the past
OPP0220717 for Muchow, is still pending.
Coyle NOAA cruise is still pending, probably NMFS
Some continuing programs, good year
NAVO is pending
McManus to be funded
194 days total, 80 funded and 114 pending although many are sure to be funded.
Triaxus is an issue for several funded cruises
Huesemann is questionable and triple booked. Area is flexible. Liz, Fred and Rich will follow up (I believe Rich found out he is not funded)
Chavez NSF proposal is declined
McManus is funded OCE0219615 CHECK THIS # Ok with 14 days total
Bishop is not funded
Collins proposal is ONR project and is funded
Add Boyd NRL if funded, request not in system, pending decision today
New total is 202 days, but still includes Husesemann and NAVO (total 30 days).
Add 16 ONR days for Cooperman and Berger
UC days to be added depending on funding
Hildebrand is funded by Navy
Brown NSF is declined
Diachok NRL pending cruise to be decided today, 10 Days in May
NAVO is pending
Stein/Navy is funded and has marine mammal permit.
Check timing on Dever with Garfield cruise on POINT SUR
Goericke is funded for 25 days port to port for two cruises
Craig Smith NOAA funding status is unknown. Fred Rossmann will check.
Huesemann funding is questionable triple booked . Rich Muller to check.
Seibel DOE funding status is unknown
Batchelder is place holder for mesoscale GLOBEC work: (Kenric)
Barth needs to be coordinated with Wheeler on REVELLE
Huesemann is questionable and triple booked.
Bachelder- get rid of OCE number
Hebert does not need shiptime on WECOMA
Sherr will not go in 2003 if funded
0233620 Charette (Also on WECOMA) panel is in Oct. may not be funded for 2003 work
Several double bookings with REVELLE
NOAA Bearing Sea work, Stabeno & Eble should be considered
HOTS has several cruises that are not covered
Schedule starts with the PSA in January.
Stein/ONR is funded
Taylor/NAVO is pending
June to September is overbooked
Laske needs to go after September and would prefer to go on REVELLE or THOMPSON. Concerned about OBS deployment (Freeboard) and load limits on KILO MOANA.
Chave and Smith to go to REVELLE schedule
Villareal would prefer a SIO ship because of Blue Water diving support
NEED to find a place for Villareal in summer time
Pfeiffer Navy Survey in December is double booking with earlier cruise, remove.
Potential add on to HOTS for Dunnebier late in 2003 or early 2004 that would make that HOTS cruise 10 days.
KILO MOANA Schedule modified during meeting leaving Villareal, Luther, HOTS (May Oct) not scheduled. New schedule adds Stabeno first cruise and Eble in the Bering Sea.
Sohn & Tivey Can they use ALVIN instead of ROV?
Tivey canıt use ALVIN so need to consider with ROV scheduling.
Booksh may not be ready for 2003 work
Start on EPR at beginning of the year for work that has been deferred
Then Gulf of Mexico work for Sheppard that was cancelled for 2002
Need to make July maintenance period longer.
Sohn needs to go before EWING cruise. Originally asked for JASON II but can use ALVIN.
Will revise schedule by putting Kelly in place of Tivey, Sohn moves earlier, expand maintenance time
Need to know if Ocean Exploration and Sheppard be done back to back and in some other part of the year.
Jon will look at the timing for maintenance periods and squeezing in NOAA cruises.
OıDay is declined.
Cavanaugh changes to pending.
Schedule goes to about 290 days
German cruise is a test cruise of new ROV, this needs a ship sometime after January.
McCartney needs ROV and ship or some other method as early in the year as possible to recover moorings with defective releases.
Debbie Kelly JDF work defer 2nd cruise to 2004
Kelly is higher priority than Chadwick
Polkany to 2004 which is a one year postponement, need to check if this can go to 2004
M. Tivey canıt use ALVIN so need to see about scheduling ROV
Embly in western Pacific and JDF
JDF work could use ROPOS, ship time not available and ROPOS may not be avail.
Embly Ring of Fire does not need ROV
JASON II switch from THOMPSON to REVELLE in early August
ROV supports Fryer then travels to JDF on board THOMPSON and does Kelly, Johson/Voight. Then goes to REVELLE and does Becker/Jones and then Chave/Smith to Hawaii
Not covered in 2003: Embly, McCartney, Tivey, Chadwick, Kelly (2nd cruise) and Polkany .
Will use transit to JDF for transportation of Jason II
NOAA work in Bering Sea, Embly, 2nd Brink and Inzce not covered.
Fryer needs OSU coring, conflict with Slowey?? check
P. Wheeler and loading location is an issue because of potential weather problems and pilot requirements getting into Newport in the winter.
Wheeler will be a San Diego to San Diego cruise which reduces the cruise by about 4 days and ensures a better chance of not wasting science days waiting to get into Newport.
Chadwell is deferred from last year.
Chadwick/Becker/Jones becomes Becker cruise with Jones as ancillary project that may add one day, reducing the total by about 7 days which gets Chave/Smith started earlier.
Laske to be scheduled after Hildebrand in Hawaii.
Add two days for Terrel/ONR to transit from Hawaii to Acapulco
Lonsdale and Chadwell will follow Laske.
Polkany after Chadwell in 2004
Villereal still needs a ship, can this be done on NEW HORIZON, WECOMA or THOMPSON?
Weller needs a ship off of Chile for Mooring turnaround which needs to be in October due to battery life.
Can Byrne and Dick work together on one cruise?
Byrne and Beal were deferred from last year and H. Dick is completing lost time from previous cruise.
Slowey Insurance issue resolved in that they can work up to twelve miles offshore.
Go to Western Pacific for Navy cruises?
2nd Brink
Bartek ECS seems unlikely and will use a Taiwanese ship
Navy exercise in Japan (2nd Ship?)
Nitrouer et al 2nd cruise
Embly
MELVILLE_II (Stay in Atlantic)
Global Ocean Repeat Hydrography (KNORR OR MELVILLE)
Limeburner
McCartney
Hebert
Keigwin needs to be summer and is possible if one or more of the Limeburner, Hebert and McCartney cruises are delayed. It might be possible to use OSU equipment and leave it on board.
MELVILLE would be done in Atlantic around September.
Global Ocean Repeat Hydrography
Double booking with MELVILLE (2) and very late in the year
Med work Craig Lee equipment ready? Yes
Intermediate to help with the timing?
Luther needs to be earlier and takes precedence over others in his group.
Can ship start earlier in December?
Holbrook should be 40 days total including port days and will not include coring.
Sohn (Alvin or ROV work first) 6 science days, transit days high?
Barton/Gulich total days 40 including port days, no other funding.
Global Ocean Repeat Hydrography
Limeburner? No
McCartney? No
Schedule is up in the air due to recent changes in science plans
After inport in Charleston, work down south or on ocean exploration, then 45 day CO2 cruise,
Repeat Hydrography cruise is Feeley/Wanninkhof
2. Security Issues and Clearances
Vietnam, most problems are in the north and they are minor thefts, etc.
Transit in and around Indonesia and Philippines.
Mediterranean, nothing predictable as a threat that is definitive at this time, but their general feeling is that the Med or the Red Sea are the likely next place for problems.
Ecuador lots of negative activity lately but now the government has taken action to protect an eighty kilometer channel entering port. The farthest offshore for reported problems is at the pilot station.
No real problems with the possible exception of Venezuela.
Guayana on the north coast of South America is a problem. Pilots carry weapons there.
Southern and Western Africa No dangers offshore in these areas, but the climate in the ports can be dangerous.
See THOMPSON if MELVILLE goes to the Western Pacific.
See notes about EWING.
Travel warnings on the web linked from UNOLS security page
Liz has a list of regional security officers. Call her for names to make contact and get current information on areas the ship will call at ports.
Fish people say that Ecuador is very unhappy with U.S. and there are some problems there.
Will make available charts depicting maritime boundaries.
1600 Adjourn to schedule review meeting.
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1530 1700 Scheduling Review Meeting
(Chair, Vice Chair, UNOLS, Program managers, SIO, LDEO, UW, Hawaii, WHOI schedulers)
KILO MOANA schedule was updated.
Covered: NOAA Bering Sea work; Eble and Stabeno, Bruland and Popp. 2nd Stabeno cruise not scheduled.
Michaels is scheduled much later than required.
Not Covered: May Sept. HOTS cruises
Could do Sept and Oct HOTS and potentially 2nd Stabeno cruise if Michaels is dropped.
Lost Luther 7 days July, needs Multi Beam,
Villeareal with diving off Hawaii needs summer, not covered
Laske goes to REVELLE, Smith and Chave go to REVELLE
The following is a list of Scheduling Problems, potential solutions and items to be checked to see if solutions will work:
Navy Cruises in Western Pacific potentially not covered (Brink 2nd Cruise and Inzce NUWC cruise in Japan needing two ships)
Possible solutions:
MELVILLE Melville (1) schedule (Liz Brenner)
Vietnamese vessel (John Freitag)
KILO MOANA would need several changes and other vessels to cover cruises
Stan Contact Popp, Bruland
Liz What time frames Horizon is available in Hawaii or PNW
Avail from May through 1st of August
Fred Jones Availability of WECOMA in Bering Sea or Hawaii
Covering Bering Sea Work for Stabeno (2), Eble, Bruland, Popp
Kilo Moana Current schedule with change to add 2nd Stabeno (Stan)
Wecoma See if any Bering Sea or Hawaii work can be covered (Fred J)
Villareal not covered
NEW HORIZON or WECOMA Liz to contact PI
WECOMA Fred Jones to check availability
Luther, D. not covered - 7 days in last two weeks of July with Multi-Beam
??? No ideas presented.
HOTS Cruises not covered May through Oct.
Kilo Moana
New Horizon
Wecoma
KOK
Other Pacific Cruises not covered:
Weller Mooring recover in Oct. at 20 S
MELVILLE go through Canal
REVELLE do later than desired
Embly Ring of Fire work
MELVILLE, THOMPSON or REVELLE
Kevin Brown equipment Recovery
URACCA
Med Problems (Jon with Bill, Tim, Joe and Matt)
M. Gregg needs to be followed by Luther (et al) in May
Craig Lee and Luther need the same time and both need large ships
Postpone 1st Craig Lee to 2004 and move others forward
Clearances are a problem.
Identify potential Intermediate ships to cover some of the work
See if Nittrouer and Cindy Lee can go on Intermediate
Which ships and which lines are covered for CLIVAR/Swift (Jon and Liz)
MELVILLE
KNORR late in year
More than one ship?
Cruises left hanging in the Atlantic
Hebert (ENDEAVOR or MELVILLE)
Limeburner (ENDEAVOR, MELVILLE)
McCartney (MELVILLE, Need ROV but JASON II may not be avail)
Look for other potential solutions
Tim Askew should examine winch from Scripps and HBOI ROV
Kegwin (MELVILLE) needs summer Jumbo piston coring
Tivey Mid Atlantic Ridge ROV work, need ROV and Ship
1800 Adjourn
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